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InderKinder
Dealing Creatively with Ethnic Classifications

Three Questions to Urmila Goel and Nisa Punnamparambil-Wolf

Julia Jürgens

Urmila Goel and Nisa Punnamparambil-Wolf presented their book InderKinder - Über das Aufwachsen und Leben in Deutschland (Indian-Children: on Growing Up and Living in Germany, published by Drapaudi Verlag) at the Jewish Museum Academy on 20 March 2014. It was the third in a series of events on “New German Stories” where, with the aid of individual biographies, we examine Germany’s historical and current status as an immigration society. On this occasion we focused on children of immigrants from India, who gained public awareness for the first time during the “Green Card” campaign of 2000.

On 19 March 2014 Julia Jürgens conducted a short interview with the two editors Urmila Goel and Nisa Punnamparambil-Wolf and asked them the following tree questions:

What made you choose this title?

We’re referring with this title to the marginalizing “Kinder statt Inder” (children instead of Indians) campaign of the year 2000. The wordplay of InderKinder (Indian-children) is meant ironically: it was important to us to find a creative way to deal with these attributions. With the book, we want to show the varied ways that people who grew up and live in Germany handle the classification of being a child of Indian immigrants.

On the cover you can see a photo of three playing children

Book cover; Draupadi Verlag

The book consists of two parts, autobiographical stories and essays. How would you explain your concept?

The people who contributed to the book are second generation Indian immigrants. Their stories include autobiographical observations but go beyond the autobiographical too. The essays in the second part are written from an academic perspective, reflecting on what these stories and experiences might say about our society. InderKinder isn’t an academic book, however. It’s a book for anyone interested in stories of migration.

Portrait of a woman wearing a sliding cap and looking directly into the camera

Portrait of Urmila Goel; Urmila Goel

Indians remain a less visible group at large, relative to other immigrants: are there advantages or disadvantages to not being the focus of immigration debates?

The “Kinder statt Inder” campaign and the discussions about so-called “Computer Indians” demonstrated what it means to get more attention. It’s definitely an ambivalent experience. On the one hand, people who have a familial connection to India were finally seen; they got to tell their stories. On the other hand, there was more hostility and more negative emphasis on them. The attention on Indians as a model minority – the most educated and best integrated – is also equivocal, because it can be used to denigrate other immigrant groups. We also discuss this in the book.

The questions were posed by Julia Jürgens (Academy program on migration and diversity).

Portrait of a woman, beach and sea in the background

Portrait of Nisa Punnamparambil-Wolf; Nisa Punnamparambil-Wolf

Citation recommendation:

Julia Jürgens (2014), InderKinder
Dealing Creatively with Ethnic Classifications. Three Questions to Urmila Goel and Nisa Punnamparambil-Wolf.
URL: www.jmberlin.de/en/node/6397

Interview Series: New German Stories (12)

  • New German Stories

    From 2014 to 2017, our colleagues from the Academy program on migration and diversity held regular events at the Jewish Museum in a series called New German Stories. The guests' lives speak to Germany, past and present, as a society of migration, and the events take these life stories as a springboard for exploring these themes. Beforehand, the guests were almost always interviewed. We have compiled these interviews for you here.

  • Karamba Diaby is sitting on a staircase, wearing a blue suit with a red check tie.

    Karamba Diaby

    “We should close this representation gap”

    Interview
    26 May 2017

  • Portrait of an elderly lady with a bun

    Anita Awosusi

    On her book Our Father – A Sinti Family Recounts

    Interview
    6 Feb 2017

  • Black and white portrait of a young man with glasses in half profile

    Ármin Langer

    “The boredom of peaceful coexistence”

    Interview
    18 Oct 2016

  • Portrait of a woman with glasses who smiles and looks directly into the camera.

    Marion Kraft

    “The part Black soldiers played in the liberation of Germany from Nazism has been largely neglected”

    Livestream
    6 Jul 2016

  • Portrait of a young woman smiling

    Çiçek Bacık

    “We’ve always been spoken and written about”

    Interview
    13 Oct 2015

  • Portrait of a woman with a blue headscarf, lipstick and eye shadow, looking upwards to the left.

    Fereshta Ludin

    “I wish more people would look in my eyes instead of at my scarf”

    Interview
    16 Sep 2015

  • Black and white portrait of a man.

    David Ranan

    “Other but not foreign”

    Interview
    6 Jul 2015

  • Detail from a book cover: it shows a fish wrapped in newspaper, with its head and tail fin visible.

    Ahmad Milad Karimi

    On his book Osama bin Laden is Sleeping with Fishes

    Interview
    9 Mar 2015

  • Portrait of a woman with glasses who smiles and looks directly into the camera

    Alina Gromova

    Generation “kosher light”. Young Jews of Russian descent in Berlin

    Interview
    8 Sep 2014

  • An older woman with glasses and headscarf (left in the picture) is talking to a younger woman who also wears glasses and is standing at the right edge of the picture.

    Canan Turan

    Kıymet or: A cinematic tribute to my grandmother

    Interview
    4 Jul 2014

  • On the cover you can see a photo of three playing children

    Urmila Goel and Nisa Punnamparambil-Wolf

    InderKinder
    Dealing creatively with ethnic classifications

    Interview
    19 Mar 2014

  • Three women in profile at a table, smilingly signing books

    Alice Bota, Khuê Pham, and Özlem Topçu

    “New German stories”

    Interview
    29 Jan 2014

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